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Title: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on December 23, 2017, 03:00:50 PM
Subject to fishery confirmation this is our 2018 proposal:

Date           Venue                     Organiser

Feb 17        Elinor                      Andre.         Confirmed
Mar 03        Toft Newton             Andre.         Cancelled after Fishery advice of bad road conditions near fishery
Mar 17        Leighton                 Stevie N.     Cancelled after fishery advice
Apr 07        Thornton                 Andre          Confirmed
Apr 14        Toft Newton            Andre          Confirmed  (Revised date after  earlier matcch had to be cancelled).
Apr 21        Eyebrook                Andre          Confirmed
May05        Ringstead                Andre
May 19       Ladybower              Steve F
Jun 09        Scaling Dam            Tony B
Jun 23        Barnsfold                Dave C / Martin M
Jul 07         Leighton.                Steve N.        Confirmed
Jul 21         Sweethope              Tony B
Aug 04       Ringstead                Andre
Aug 18       Toft Newton             Andre
Sep 08       Ladybower               Steve F (Pairs Comp.) Confirmed
Oct 13        Eyebrook               Andre (SP Memorial) Confirmed
Oct 13        Blagdon                  Kev P waiting approval from Bristol Water
Oct 27        AGM                       Russ.

25th March       Burrator               Kevin Primmer. Confirmed
8th April            Siblyback             Kevin Primmer. Confirmed
15th April          Roadford            Kevin Primmer. Confirmed
29th April          Kennick             Kevin Primmer. Confirmed
  5th May            Drift               Dave Williams  date changed to Saturday
12th May            Stithians        Dave Williams    Confirmed   Cornish Open sponsored by Snowbee          
27th May             Fernworthy     Kevin Primmer  confirmed
24th June.          Colliford          Kevin Primmer confirmed
7th July             Stithians          Dave Williams. Cancelled new date to be fixed
8th July.            Drift                Dave Williams.  cancelled new date to be fixed
22nd July            T.B.C               Kevin Primmer       Drift moving to october date to be fixed
29th July            T,B,C               Kevin Primmer      Wimbleball moving to October date to be fixed    
12th August        T.B.C               Kevin Primmer       Depending on conditions
1st September     Burrator              Kevin Primmer      
30th September   Burrator            Dave Williams
27th October       Kennick            Kevin Primmer
      



July 07 we'll look at what the weather is doing and what the weed situation is at the fisheries we use or we have potential for a new venue.

Andre.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.
Post by: davec on December 27, 2017, 03:12:01 PM
It is my golden wedding anniversary on the 23rd of June so unless this date can be changed I will not be at Barnsfold  on the day but I will still book and confirm the date with owner Frank. Please advise.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.
Post by: graham14 on December 30, 2017, 11:51:22 PM
Hello I just joined BFTA my name is Graham and I live in Farnham Surrey. I always said slogging away as an accountant in San Francisco that I would rather being fishing. Now that I am forced into retirement I intend to do just that.

I am originally from Yorkshire and the family moved to Surrey when I was ten and began coarse fishing. My brother and I caught some decent Carp and Trench. I moved to America at 18 and took up fly-fishing in my twenties. I have done a lot of float tube fishing in California. My favourite spots are in the Sierra Nevada mountain ranges of California in the Redding/Sacramento area. I had a 19lb Rainbow literally take me water skiing in a float tube at a private place called Henderson Springs. That was awesome. Though better was that I had an Eagle come down and try to pinch a  brown trout off me for breakfast at Mount Lassen. That was a real breath taking goose bump induced moment in my life that I will not forget.

I returned to the UK in 2010 so it has been almost ten years since I float tubed, just like riding a bike right. Health and safety here in UK. I have a life vest..not required in USA but probably a good idea in retrospect at my age ( coming up on 57).

I am looking forward to meeting up and the competitions sound fun. I have always been catch and release but correct me if I am wrong Rainbows cannot reproduce in UK ? That would justify me knocking one on the head with a priest ( have order one if I go that route)

Also from your site I see you have a War of the Roses match. I would like to put myself forward for the Yorkshire team despite the fact I live in Surrey and spent 35 years in the USA. I will bring my birth certificate but my biggest claim to Yorkire citizenship is the fact that my Mum went to school with Geoffrey Boycott in Fitzwilliam…if that don’t qualify me nowt will.

Tight Lines


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on January 02, 2018, 10:32:28 AM
Welcome Graham I’m sure you will enjoy the competitions and the banter. 57 will have you amongst the young ones the Chairman Andre is about that age but looks a lot older. The WOR is not organised by the BFTA but quite a few attend it is a great day out and even better Yorkshire always come last so you won’t have much to live up to there! Look forward to meeting you Graham.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on January 02, 2018, 04:22:11 PM
Welcome Graham. It's nice to have a few youngsters joining! I guess lake fishing in California at present could be a tad on the warm side. However, I guess the Scierra Nevada's are a bit north of that devastation. With reference to getting a priest - yes you will need one here; a very few places have reported rainbows spawning in the wild but not enough to bother about. If in desperation, a length of copper pipe off-cut with a bit of molten lead in the end does the job well - most of the bought priests are too light to be worth bothering with. You might also ask Andy ward to turn one up for you, but make sure you give him some size guidance, as he is built a bit like the bigfoot of the Scierra's, and tends to manufacture accordingly!

Reference the Southern fishing Calendar - is the Cornish Open really going to be at Stithians as opposed to the normal Drift venue - or is that a typo? Of more importance where will the post match pasties be consumed, or is that delight a thing of the past?


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: kevin1 on January 03, 2018, 08:08:46 PM
The Cornish Open is at Stithians this year. Drift has been dropped by South West Lakes . We are hoping to fish drift this year if the syndicate Dave Williams has got together take on the lease.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on January 04, 2018, 05:03:57 PM
Thanks for the reply Kev. I am sad to hear about the Drift situation, I always loved fishing there - apart from the bit of mountaineering getting back to the car park for old gits with dodgy hearts that is!? The fishing was always interesting and not always as easy as it may have appeared from the results table sometimes; local knowledge was always an advantage there. Some of the other wildlife to be seen around the water was also very interesting and occasionally quite rare.

I hope Dave is successful in reclaiming a lease and management of the lake if he can get enough locals interested. Good luck.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: graham14 on January 13, 2018, 07:16:34 PM
When I expect m membership to BFTA ? I want to make friends of a same mind.


I am amused. I converted to fly fishing from coarse fishing n my mis twenties and never looked back. However I was on Holiday in France with my cousin and her husband and for the first time I was called a “Fluff Chukker” apparently that is Yorkshire for a fly fisherman. I am a proud Yorkshireman and had never heard that before.

I did catch a barbell on sweet corn that day in France and Andrew blanked but I am fluff chukker and proud of it.

I am already complaining however.

I joined BFTA to make friends. I was informed that you were sending out membership crds last week. I want to join competions starting at Elinor on 17 Feb I am prepared apparently you are not.  Sorry but disappointed thus far.





Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on January 14, 2018, 05:29:44 PM
Sorry you are disappointed Graham. However, you should find that you were signed up for the Elinor match a while back and those of us who will be there will look forward to seeing you. I cannot comment on the membership card situation, as these are down to an elusive man who spends much of his time hidden in fog in the middle of Dartmoor these days - I understand that he does find his way out sometimes, so hold on to that hope! This may not be the case on this occasion, but we do tend to get quite a few cards mislaid or stolen in the post.

What may happen is that he will make a bunch of cards for people attending a match, and send them to one of the officers who will be present to distribute - this saves on postage thus saving about 8% of your membership fee. If there is no record of payment, then he will send one of the heavies along to ask nicely for a crisp £10 note.

Don't panic, we are a generally friendly and relaxed lot and can be quite trusting too. Look forward to seeing you there on the 17th.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: davec on February 04, 2018, 05:14:43 PM
I have booked Barnsfold for the 23rd June with owner Frank but as previously mentioned I am not available on that date.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates Toft Newton
Post by: andre on February 04, 2018, 10:07:54 PM
Toft is confirmed.

Andre


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates Ravensthorpe August 18
Post by: andre on February 26, 2018, 02:15:12 PM
Darren has contacted Ravensthorpe, all looks good for August 18th, he is waiting on a reply from AW regarding a waiver of the launch fee or at least a reduced launch fee. Watch this space for updates.

Andre.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on February 27, 2018, 08:57:53 AM
News is looking favourable for once. Nice water to fish, but we will have to consider what type of competition to have due to two fish bag or the alternative expensive four? fish alternative. We came up with the pairs competition for this water so will we reinstate this?


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on February 27, 2018, 09:19:50 AM
Good suggestion Tony


Title: RAVENSTHORPE AUG 18TH
Post by: andre on March 01, 2018, 12:03:33 PM
Ravensthorpe have come back to us with a proposal for a F/T day.

£33.00 for a 1 fish C&R ticket
£40.00 for a 4 fish C&R ticket

Post if you're interested so that Darren can confirm.

Andre.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on March 01, 2018, 01:02:10 PM
Is it me or are these prices a bit steep? Surely Anglian Water don't charge at these levels on all their waters do they? Smacks a bit of hiding a £10 launch fee into the fishing price for a day - or am I being cynical?

The one fish C&R is the only viable cost for a pensioner. Suggest they have a look at the prices charged by Elinor and Eyebrook for FT fishing.

Do they really want float tubers to fish any more?


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on March 01, 2018, 01:32:55 PM
Last season prices where £30 for a 4 fish ticket and £25 for a 2 fish ticketand c&r so I think they are incorporating a launch fee amounting to the £10 previously charged so tell the tossers to stick it were the sun don’t shine


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on March 01, 2018, 01:57:10 PM
As far as I am aware we have never yet found out who instigated these ludicrous launch fee charges at Ravensthorpe. Ludicrous because the water has no purpose built facilities for enabling FT's to get into or out of the water etc. which would theoretically would justify at least some recompense. Is this a locally imposed scheme by Water manager or does the policy come from the top management at the recreational group at Anglian water? Does anybody know the answer?

The policy does not appear to apply to all Anglian Water lakes; for example, I do not remember having to pay this level of fee at Rutland or Pitsford. Ravensthorpe used to be an extremely well respected and popular float tubing water, which only became a bit difficult when the weed proliferated at the lower end later in the season. The introduction of this high fee, making a days fishing seriously expensive, is the only reason we abandoned the venue.

Darren, any chance of trying to find out why the launch fee was introduced at such a high rate and why we are being asked to pay it still? Perhaps a tactful reference to the fees we pay in the relatively close surrounding area might help instigate a more sensible pricing policy at this lake. Currently however, it really does look like they do not want the business of the near a hundred Float Tubers we directly represent!


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: Tubeman on March 01, 2018, 03:52:34 PM
I sent an e-mail in 2016 asking about the launch fee the reply I had was from

Sally Redrup
Administrator
Recreation Team
 
Anglian Water Services Ltd

Wing wtw

Morcott Road

Wing

Oakham

LE15 9DX

She mentioned that they review the charges on a yearly basis obviously they feel no need to change the  £10 charge.

Hope this helps

John


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on March 01, 2018, 05:25:52 PM
Thanks John. I feel another contact with them may be coming on - but I will calm down first!


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: Terry on March 02, 2018, 10:26:56 AM
Ravensthorpe used to be my favourite tubing water until they introduced this silly and excessive launch fee. I did ring them up last year to see if they still charged it and the warden in the lodge said no they didn't so I went the next day and he charged me!!!!! I have fell out with Ravo over this launch fee and will not give them the satisfaction of charging me an exorbitant price for a days fishing. I agree with Tony, they'll take your money but provide little in facilities. I doubt I would attend a comp there on principle, I'll go to Thornton, Ringstead or Elinor, or even take a single manned boat out on Draycote first (single manned £20.00 for the last four hours, 1 fish + C&R)


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: Darrenvsl on March 04, 2018, 09:56:33 AM
As far as I am aware we have never yet found out who instigated these ludicrous launch fee charges at Ravensthorpe. Ludicrous because the water has no purpose built facilities for enabling FT's to get into or out of the water etc. which would theoretically would justify at least some recompense. Is this a locally imposed scheme by Water manager or does the policy come from the top management at the recreational group at Anglian water? Does anybody know the answer?

The policy does not appear to apply to all Anglian Water lakes; for example, I do not remember having to pay this level of fee at Rutland or Pitsford. Ravensthorpe used to be an extremely well respected and popular float tubing water, which only became a bit difficult when the weed proliferated at the lower end later in the season. The introduction of this high fee, making a days fishing seriously expensive, is the only reason we abandoned the venue.

Darren, any chance of trying to find out why the launch fee was introduced at such a high rate and why we are being asked to pay it still? Perhaps a tactful reference to the fees we pay in the relatively close surrounding area might help instigate a more sensible pricing policy at this lake. Currently however, it really does look like they do not want the business of the near a hundred Float Tubers we directly represent!

In response to all the comments, I had a long conversation regarding this launch fee with first the local wardens then Dave their immediate boss! Who assured me he had taken the matter further up the chain. The response was “the kayakers are more than willing to pay this fee so why not the float tubers”.
Tact full references to Eyebrook’s fee and others were responded with “SO” the policy is a £10 launch fee!!!  - Kayakers
If anybody else would like to have a go persuading the unpersuadable  feel free!

..Darren



Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on March 04, 2018, 10:15:03 AM
Good try with them Darren I think you need to introduce the ICF to them ;D


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on March 05, 2018, 09:22:50 AM
Good try Darren.

Great pity that most of us are not rich kayakers isn't it? I'm amazed that ANYBODY would want to pay this much money to fish 1 fish C&R on a regular basis. It's a shame, as this was one of the early responders to allow float tubing and as such must have attracted a reasonable return in fishing fess from BFTA anglers and others over the years.

The best place for plastic boats is on the sea not on our freshwater fisheries!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Grrrrr........!!!


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: dougie shaw on March 11, 2018, 02:22:47 PM
Any info on Blagdon in October? ie price, times etc.
Cheers


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: bracken on March 12, 2018, 09:16:42 AM
Hi Dougie. The person who organises Blagdon is Kevin P. It is a water which takes quite a lot of careful negotiation to get organised, and there is a chain of command which needs to be agreed before a date can be set. I am afraid that we will have to display a little patience in awaiting the date of this fixture - if it can be arranged.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: stevieN on March 20, 2018, 07:47:00 AM
Fellow tubers, after the cancellation of Leighton we need a date to rearrange this venue... any suggestions for dates ???


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on March 20, 2018, 08:30:00 AM
How about 26th May ?


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: Clayts on March 20, 2018, 08:39:20 PM
Is that not bank holiday weekend Steve..? Some members may be away if so..? Just a thought...

Cheers,

Mark..


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: brian on March 21, 2018, 09:22:17 AM
july 7 is free which is a match day with no fishery


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: davec on March 21, 2018, 09:35:53 AM
The 7th of July is ok for me


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: andre on March 21, 2018, 10:03:47 AM
7th July good for me.

Andre.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on March 22, 2018, 01:07:41 PM
7th good for chemical twins


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.STEVE PARTON MEMORIAL
Post by: andre on March 26, 2018, 02:43:35 PM
I have had to change the date for the SP Memorial.

One week pull forward to Saturday 15th September - confirmed with Ifor at Thornton.

Andre.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: stevieN on March 28, 2018, 08:05:00 AM
I have provisionally pencilled in Leighton for July 7th
Can you all put your attendance on the Leigjton sign up page


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: Terry on March 29, 2018, 01:53:16 PM
Can I drag the conversation back to Ravensthorpe? I was chatting to a guy who has Kayaked on a local reservoir in Daventry, (coarse fishing, Pike & Perch) and he told me they are happy to pay the £10.00 launch fee because they are not welcome on most waters, so when they get somewhere that will allow them they are willing to pay it. Does anybody know of other waters where they are welcome? Meanwhile, I'll be at Thornton, and Eyebrook, tubing for zero launch fee and 3 or 4 times a year I take a disabled mate out on a boat, used to be Ravo, but will now be Draycote now they have a wheely boat.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: Montanajoe on March 30, 2018, 01:44:00 PM
You can kayak at Toft but I don't think there's a launch fee


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on March 30, 2018, 05:10:45 PM
Toft charge £5 for kayaks must be because they are rich  ;)


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: fishicist on April 01, 2018, 08:09:18 AM
Up 'norf' Sweethope and the Northumbria Water waters which allow tubing all allow kayaking/canoe's with no launch fee.
Sweethope event confirmed.
Good if someone could forward contact details for Scaling Dam


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on April 01, 2018, 09:05:51 AM
Ladybower confirmed for the 19 May


Title: Re: RAVENSTHORPE AUG 18TH
Post by: Lighthouse on April 03, 2018, 05:26:38 PM
Ravensthorpe have come back to us with a proposal for a F/T day.

£33.00 for a 1 fish C&R ticket
£40.00 for a 4 fish C&R ticket

Post if you're interested so that Darren can confirm.

Andre.

Just checked this wasn't posted on April 1st!

At 22 miles, Ravensthorpe is my nearest venue but for a further 14 miles there's Elinor . . . £22 including launch fee (£3!) for an OAP and that's 6 fish plus C&R.

Ravensthorpe's pricing is a joke.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: Tubeman on April 03, 2018, 07:51:45 PM
FISHING PRICES 2018
Permit Type   Price
Day permit - Four fish plus catch and release at Ravensthorpe   £30
Day permit - Two fish plus catch and release at Ravensthorpe   £25
Sporting permit - Catch & Release - barbless flies only   £23
Half day - One fish limit plus catch and release at Ravensthorpe. Bank to noon, boat before or after 2pm. Valid all day from 1 November   £19
Senior citizen - One fish limit plus catch & release at Ravensthorpe   £23
Day boat, Ravensthorpe   £25
Half day boat (morning - until 2pm or afternoon from 1pm)   £20
Single-manned day boat   £14
Winter boat   £19
Wheelyboat   £18
Senior citizen boat hire every Tuesday throughout the season (Single-manned)   £20 (£14)

this taken from web site so with launch fee £10 to be added to prices ??

John


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: Terry on April 04, 2018, 10:06:21 AM
Yes John, you have to add the £10.00 launch fee to these prices. It was the fact that their website did not mention the launch fee last year that prompted me to ring and check, when I was told "no launch fee" but when I turned up to fish it was "pay up the launch fee, or leave". Ive not been back since.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: andre on April 05, 2018, 03:14:46 PM
Tony,
From memory I think Stevie N spoke to Scaling Dam last year I'll see if I can get hold of him.

Andre.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: Chris09 on May 07, 2018, 06:52:43 PM
Sorry I've not been able to get out tubing so far this year. I have been busy with work and also doing a lot of Pike fly fishing.

I have paid my membership and will try to get along to some events later in the year.

Barnsfold will probably be the next one I can attend.

Cheers

Chris


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates. LADYBOWER
Post by: andre on May 08, 2018, 01:42:14 PM
Sorry guys I can't do this one now; the boss has me booked out early on the Saturday evening.

For interest, fished Thornton yesterday morning, the water is slightly clearer, the fishing is much better the rod average will be pushing 8 fish this week. Huge buzzers are hatching off I was watching the pupae swimming in the surface right next to my tube. Didn't see any ospreys but managed to catch 8 fish in 3.5 hours.

Andre.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: davec on May 22, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
ANDRE WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH RUTLAND BECAUSE BRIAN AND I WILL HAVE TO BOOK SOMEWHERE TO STAY?


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: andre on May 22, 2018, 09:52:31 PM
Hi Dave, nothing booked because they has been very little interest. Rutland have to supply three rangers for the day so we'd need a minimum of ten to make it worth their while.

Andre.


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on May 24, 2018, 04:35:56 PM
I think we would know of interest if we put a post on the sign up page


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: buzzerman on August 06, 2018, 09:52:54 AM
Ladybower confirmed for the 8 September


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: wardy on August 24, 2018, 12:50:42 PM
Is the AGM the same as last year with a friendly back end of the year fishing day? If so where is the venue? I won’t make any of the remaining matches - just not been fishing this year. I have the trophy so need to figure out a way of getting it back to someone before it’s due to go to it’s new home
Wardy


Title: Re: PROPOSED 2018 Competition dates.u
Post by: wardy on August 24, 2018, 12:54:37 PM
Ah just seen it’s Kennick- definatley wont make that one